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shouldn't 2.0 imply some sort of improvement?

It wasn't enough for G4 to buy out and then utterly destroy TechTV. They had to go and screw up the original Star Trek, too.

And now, the programming geniuses over there are going to give Star Trek: The Next Generation the same treatment they gave the original Star Trek and put all that stupid 2.0 bullshit around it.

I absolutely hate that they're doing this. Star Trek 2.0 takes the content of the show -- presumably the reason people tune in to watch in the first place, and the reason the show is so popular to begin with -- and reduces it to a tiny afterthought on the screen, while a whole bunch of mindless crap scrolls by all around it.

Star Trek 2.0 is the visual equivalent of sitting next to someone who just won't shut up when you want to enjoy a program, and Star Trek:TNG 2.0 will be more of the same.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Is there anything G4 can't completely ruin?

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HAHA. I was thinking the exact same thing the other day. I watch TNG on G4 like every day and I love it. When I heard they were gonna do the 2.0 bullshit I was like NOOOOOOOOO! I am so angry. I guess I will only watch TNG on Spike Tv now. Oh by the way WIl. I am doing a research project on you for English Class and its gonna be awesome. We have to create a fictional story so Mine is gonna be about how Klingons abducted you and you are forced to do antoher season of STar Trek on an alien planet!!! HAHA

That last sentence sounds like a dare.

A frighenting dare.

I totally agree. I've been DVRing TNG for a few weeks now, and been loving it. Just watched "The Last Mission" the other night.

"Wesley, I was always proud of you." Great acting by you and Patrick Stewart in that one, Wil. The part where Picard breaks down get's me all choked up. "Oh, I envy you, Wesley Crusher." Sob.

I refuse to watch TOS "2.0" and I was very pissed to find that they're doing the same to TNG. They've even cut back to one regular episode a night. Boo.

I surely hate that about G4. But what's with all the other hate? What did I miss? Fill me in.

Anyone's thoughts on Attack of the Show?

There's not much left for G4 to ruin...unless they figure out a way to digitally insert Jar-Jar Binks into Attack of the Show.

"Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Is there anything G4 can't completely ruin?"

Why do you ask questions you already know the answer to?

I guess someone must be watching the 2.0-treated original series, otherwise why repeat it for the Next Generation? I thought it was pretty lame, a distraction from the show.

But wait: maybe, by loading their own content on top of the show, they pay less royalties, claiming that what they're showing is in part their own "original content." Any entertainment lawyers out there?

Heck, I've just been buying the DVDs. I hate commercials, and both are great shows to watch repeatedly over the years. However, unless I hit the lottery, I don't plan on replacing my collection with HDDVD or Blueray.

"Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Is there anything G4 can't completely ruin?"

Morgan Webb.

"shouldn't 2.0 imply some sort of improvement?"

You've obviously not seen the whole "Web 2.0!" thing yet....

I absolutely loathe the G4 star trek 2.0 noise. I just can't watch it. I guess I'll just have to go to my dvd's if I want to watch any TNG, I definitely won't be watching it on G4 once they implement that change.

Normally, I reserve this phrase for the most heinous of infractions:

FUCK FUCK FUCKITY FUCK!!

And this one is no exception.

"Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Is there anything G4 can't completely ruin?"

1) The divinity that is Morgan Webb.

2) Olivia Munn's perfectly formed... everything, really.

The list, unfortunately, ends there.

Since Day One, G4 has never had anyone working for it that had a Vision or Talent it the upper levels of the organization, it seems they let anyone try anything whether it's good or not.

I quit watching years ago.

Instant Oatmeal. It's almost impossible to screw that up.

... unless they decide to make a show about it...

bitter much, wil?

I'd say anything that gets more people interested in trek is a good thing.

As long as they don't make it so Riker doesn't shoot first or anything.

Although the behind the scenes info may be interesting what is the point of the stock ticker exactly?

I totally get what you mean, Wil. when I watch Trek 2.0 I usually just change the aspect ratio on my Big screen TV so that most of the 2.0 crap is cut off.

I stopped watching G4 after they destroyed Gungrave. They took a brilliant wide-screen gangster anime, and turned into a pan & scan nightmare; commercial interruptions every 6 minutes, each one about 4 seconds off set--which meant they cut to commercial midconversations at any random point--just before the climax of a scene.

Someone was suffering from some serious broadcasting tourettes.

I actually like the idea. I for one would love to watch that, just based on what I've heard about it.

And hell, no one's keeping anyone from changing the channel. :)

I just made some loaded mashed potatoes, and if the taste bad, I swear to all things awesome that its G4's fault.

I'm not bitter, because I'll get residuals whether they wrap TNG in "2.0" or not.

I'm a fan of the show (who is slightly closer to the original material than the average fan, of course) who hates what the "2.0" experience does to watching Star Trek.

I'm also a fan of TechTV who will never forgive G4 for buying a network I loved, and then systematically fucking up every single aspect of that programming until they eventually just dropped TechTV off the face of the Earth.

I'm not bitter, I'm disgusted.

Good that you're getting residuals.

Presumably, whoever owns the rights to TNG or the original series could have said, "No, you can't do that. You can't alter our show." Or if it wasn't cleared before hand, demand that they stop.

Sorry. You can probably guess what my day job is.

-and I obviously am not motivated by my day job because I seem to spend most of my day on the internet.

Maybe I missed it, but this really seems to be the exact thing ol' Ted Turner was doing a few years back when he started colorizing movies like Casablanca. People got angry, said it was stupid, he didn't make money, so he stopped.

So I plan on emailing G4 and saying, "Knock this shit off. Do you want me to watch your channel or what?" If they think they'll lose their core audience, they'll stop.

I make a crappy cartoon which is sort of about G4 and it's triumphs and tribulations

www.wtf-chuck.com

Seems like if they kept that shit on their website while the show ran it might be cool, but not on the screen like headline news.

There is a (incredibly small) group of 2.0 viewers/chatters who enjoy the quasi-MST3K environment and actually work to entertain each other and hopefully, those watching. Unfortunately, there is a much larger group of 'how do i get on teevee!/hi mom!/u guyz r loozers!' types (as with so many things, an entry exam would be quite beneficial for all.)
In any event, the 2.0 thing can be a fun diversion for an hour or two when the gang's all there, and I'm quite looking forward to seeing what our brilliance (sarcasm) can add to the viewing of TNG. I hate all the crap G4 puts on the screen, though. Trivia and show notes are interesting; a running total of 'Uhura panty shots' and 'number of times Spock says 'fascinating'' is a waste of space. No pun intended.

I like the idea of getting people together to talk about Trek. Just dont do it WHILE IM WATCHING THE SHOW! Be nice if they had a chat client that streamed the show into a chatroom online. then they could talk and watch there and leave my tv alone.

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